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Skade — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:39:35 -0000

November 19? Isn't that a bit quick for a site so central to Ruby?

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Thomas Leitner — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:34:14 -0000

I think that the facilities provided by Rubyforge are great: by registering your project, you get access to all the basic services needed by a Ruby-centric project:

* Website hosting (static is fine for most projects I think)
* File hosting
* Bug tracking
* Mailing lists

Although I really like the idea of having a central gem repository (no more github gems), I will definitely miss the above features of Rubyforge since I constantly use all of them.

Another thing that should not be forgotten: It was relatively easy in the last years by registering two feeds (RAA and rubyforge) to get information about project updates and new ruby projects. When there is no Rubyforge anymore (the number one site where new Ruby projects have been hosted), registering new ruby projects on RAA gets even more important!

Many thanks to Tom Copeland for the superb and quick support!!!

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Juvenn Woo — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:12:10 -0000

Thanks for your excellent work.

Just realized qrush == Nick Quaranto. GitHub guys are really super awesome, aha?

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Ryan Sobol — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 01:20:10 -0000

A *BIG* thank you Tom and Nick for joining forces and having the strength to put egos aside. It's clear you both just want to best possible ruby gems hosting solution for our rapidly growing community. If there's anything I can do to help, don't hesitate to drop me a line.

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mdub — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:04:01 -0000

Awesome! Thanks to Nick for giving us the next generation of gem hosting, and to Tom both for setting the standard, and for helping to make the transition so smooth.

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Luis Lavena — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:08:44 -0000

Hmn, that means file releases will not be possible on RubyForge anymore.

And Gemcutter purpose is distributing gems.

This means something like RubyFiles will need to be created and implemented so people will be able to release packages?

That means another login credentials, register, account activation, password, etc.

Divide and conquer start to sound familiar...

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Eric Wong — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:02:07 -0000

I've seen a lot less spam with Rubyforge Mailman than Google Groups. I don't
think it's possible to easily download past archives without crawling Google
Groups, either. Anyways librelist.com provides an alternative to Google
Groups if downloadable archives is a requirement. Maybe other options are
available, too...

Please just make sure you give us ample warning if you disable anything, thanks :)

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rubiii — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:17:26 -0000

Great news!

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undees — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:26:23 -0000

A lot of (gemname).rubyforge.org sites are just RDoc pages; you may well be able to just redirect them to whatever gemcutter is going to do for gem documentation.

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Name — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:24:51 -0000

retiring rubyforge lists too? that's going to be a huge transition for a lot of users.

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Luis Lavena — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:14:15 -0000

@tcopeland I'm a bit worried for packages that are _not_ gems.

One example of that is RubyInstaller. We use RubyForge to distribute installers and concentrate Bug tracking, patch queue and releases there.

The read-only and the transition seems that is going to hit us pretty hard. Please let me know if that is true or not.

Thank you.

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Norman Clarke — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:55:01 -0000

Congrats to you guys for the well deserved recognition. And thanks to the RubyForge team for years of often thankless work, and for having the maturity and lack of ego necessary to keep the focus on what's best for the community.

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Lyle Johnson — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:48:32 -0000

First things first: This is good news, and I'm glad that the gem hosting situation is improving. I am however concerned about what this change means for RubyForge, especially when I see statements here like "the parts [of RubyForge] that other sites can do better will be pruned away", and "(unidentified) RubyForge features will be put into read-only mode." I've bookmarked the transition Wiki page that you linked to and will watch it for updates, but I hope you or Tom can clarify what's going to happen on the RubyForge side.

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drawohara — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:45:21 -0000

i prefer to use the word 'improve' rather than 'delete' ;-)

100% agreed on the stubs - in fact they could even try gemcutter behavior now and, iff that fails, fallback to old behavior. something like that...

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drawohara — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:40:33 -0000

i'm thinking your spot on. still might be a few weeks or months when backwards compat for publishing should/could be supported via the rubyforge gem - a deprecation period - to avoid creating pain for people with lots of scripts and rakefiles lying around that shell out to the rubyforge.rb gem - 99.9% of which will be doing simple pushes.

if it's NOT needed that that's even better, but i'll lend a hand if it is.

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James C Russell — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:22:02 -0000

Well done mate!

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qrush — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:18:53 -0000

Ryan, that's the exact plan. :)

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drawohara — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:16:54 -0000

keep me in the loop tom, if you guys need help porting rubyforge.rb to provide a compatibility layer i'll volunteer to do that.

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Ryan Bates — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:16:23 -0000

That would be awesome if gems.rubyforge.org points to rubygems.org. This way older versions of RubyGems will automatically update without doing anything.

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Bob Martens — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:15:10 -0000

Awesome news and congrats to everyone!

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Craig Jolicoeur — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:13:12 -0000

Wow, big news. Good news though.

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Avdi Grimm — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:56:51 -0000

This is welcome news.

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qrush — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:52:45 -0000

Yes, very yes. The plan right now is to keep personal gem subdomains on *.gemcutter.org.

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leshill — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:50:28 -0000

Fabulous!

Q: Will http://gemcutter.org stay alive?

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James — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:37:10 -0000

This is excellent news, congrats! :)